Post by Deetster on Feb 23, 2010 0:40:06 GMT -5
I am going to speak now off the top of my head about this game. Feel free to skip this bold chunk if you want, and I won't be offended, because it will include many typos, and run-on sentences. I do not want to induce vomitting in the weak-stomached, or easily irritated either, lol. The results come after the big bold chunk, and with the results, the end of this crazy little diddy called Cops & Robbers.
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Before we get into the votes, I just want to thank you all for sticking in with this game, those of you who have, and to an extent, thank those of you who haven't for giving it the old college try. It is very difficult to play a game that is a new concept, and to trust in it's mechanisms, and really enjoy it, especially with a host who is prone to a few goof ups, and maybe one or two big ones...but who's counting?
SILENCE YOU TWO!
But anyway, I can't say that the idea was perfect, and maybe in reproduction, if there would be one for that matter, I or someone else would tweak a thing or two, and hey, that's just great, and that's the purpose of these games. Twists and turns, edits and fixes, that's how the game is played, and how they are hosted for that matter as well. I however, am still completely proud with how this game has worked out, and of all of you for how you played. You took what could easily have been a game that should just be ignored, or should just be given up on, and completely blew me away by creating great alliances, and really hammering out the working of this game, and exploit them, and play this game like any other, with strategy, care, and ambition. Great job to all of you.
Thanks for the kind words from those of you who enjoyed it, this has definitely been one of my more personal and interesting hosting experiences, but I probably won't do this system again...for a while that is. Who knows what the future holds? I also implore any who want to do something LIKE this, to do just that, if it is similar, I won't be the one to say "COPYCAT!". If you wanna do almost the exact same thing, lol, maybe just mention it, so I don't feel irked when I get an application E-mail for "Robbers & Cops, the original concept", lol.
So yeah, that's enough of my rambling. Thank you for playing, and stay tuned for Survivor: Japan, or whatever the hell I'll have planned next. Thanks for making this hosting experience one of my best!...
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....With some of the best playing I've seen in a while at that!
Onto the game...
Well, it was one hell of a game! 15 individuals entered a fierce battle for power, and gems just over 3 months ago. Fighting for the authority to be a cop, and the power to be a robber. Protecting, stealing, teaming up, and executing. The game flipped and flopped many ways, and at the end it has come down to 2 people.
Tracy, and Russell.
I will now allow the Jurors to one at a time place their gems where they so please. I have decided to post the statements alone with the votes. You both have 23 gems each. You need 48 to win, meaning you both are competiting for 25 more of the 49 gems being distributed tonight. Good luck!
I'll start with Kelly...
4 for Tracy.
3 for Russell.
Next up, Brett:
Alright, here's what I'm gonna do...
Russell. I was going into this wanting to give your more gems... But, you kept saying how "boring" I was in this game and unsocial. Well, you never approached me or anything either. I think it goes both ways. You did play a good game. I respect the fact that you got here how you did. It's a great strategy and it doesn't always work for everyone. But, it's also not good to talk a bunch of shit on me then try to kiss my ass at the same time.
I really wanted to give you more gems than Tracy... and I'm not a bitter juror at all. But after reading your answers to peole's questions, I've decided to reward you with 2 of my gems.
Tracy, I'm very proud of you. You came a long way and took a lot of heat from people. You NEVER gave up hope on anything. That is truely admirable. I prefered Russell's strategy a little bit more (strategy over strength in challenges), but I can't ignore the fact that you kicked some serious ass out there. Those were some tough challenges filled with incredible competitors. You helped take out a lot of strong people, which many can't ever do. So I'm awarding you with 5 of my gems. Good Luck :~)
Congrats to BOTH! You both did amazing jobs. You definitely deserve to be where you're at. Keep in touch and also keep it real
Next up, Silas:
5 gems Russell
2 gems Tracy
Sugar's turn now:
I am giving all 7 of my gems to...
TRACY!
Congratulations, Tracy. You earned these and I really hope you win! I told Russell my mind wasn't made up - and it really wasn't. He made some good points, which I considered, but I guess his whole attitude about how he "knows me" and didn't seem to bother to try too hard to earn my gems makes me not want to give them to him. I respected Tracy's game the most. Yes, I commented on how I felt she wasn't trying in the beginning, but overall she was a loyal ally, she stood up for what she believed, she never sold out to the other side and she didn't throw a little tantrum when she wasn't given a gem (that she didn't even deserve) like Russell did. I think Tracy was very impressive in all those challenge wins when she really needed them. That, and having key relationships with people who gave her their gems as they exited the game, making good relationships with the jurors, and making key strategic moves when it mattered have earned her the right to my gems. Go Tracy!
Next is Marcus:
I am switching my vote over to 7 gems for Russell and 0 gems for Tracy at this point. I am doing an all or nothing in this final vote and that's how it's going to be as I keep switching back and forth but based on one particular answer I saw I do not like the answer to it and therefore it completely switched my vote.
Ethat's next now:
So, the jury process has made me come to the realization that these people both played better games than I did. I planned to come into the game “solid” at the challenges but not the best, communicate with everyone, and put myself in a position where I’d be a swing player at times because I’d have strong working relationships with everyone. I failed to do that. Even though in my confessional, I talked about betraying the people who I was closest to and even had chats with other people in the game about that, I didn’t. I just grew too attached to Marcus and Silas; I was loyal to them and somewhat loyal to Brett and Russell as well until I was ousted. And I didn’t hold back at all in the challenges, often taking work from players like Marcus, Silas, or Russell, and claiming the wins because of their effort, which made me a much larger threat than I should’ve been. My game was very, very morally clean. Which is rewarding in ways, but it’s not what I needed to do to win.
Anyway, I have read over everything, and I feel completely confident that Russell is the player who deserves to win this game. I’ve actually felt that way since midway through the game, and I’ve given Tracy a chance to show that she played better, but I haven’t seen enough evidence to convince me of that. However, I’m just one person a jury of seven, so I’m not just going to give Russell all of my gems to try to influence the vote in his favor. Tracy stepped up when she needed to at the end of the game, and she played a strong enough social game to get players to give her gems when they were eliminated. But one of the reasons why she made it far was because she wasn’t perceived to be one of the top challengers, and…it didn’t seem to be a strategy that she consciously employed according to her answers. Even though I do think that semi-consciously, she didn’t fight hard until she needed to, according to her, she tried to win challenges every round…but that would’ve just made her go earlier if she ever succeeded. Plus there were times when she received gems from players who just wanted Team Silas to fail. Regardless of her justification, I still feel the same way about my gem distribution. Russell had a significant part every round of the game from start to finish and made just about every strategic switch in the game happen that happened. He didn’t stand out, but he was (almost) always there, always thinking, and always making the right moves to advance. And I hope that he wins this game.
5 gems go to Russell.
2 gems go to Tracy.
And lastly, Russell, you need 3 gems from Rocky to clinch the win. Tracy, you need 5 to win.
Final Votes...or gem giveaway or whatever the hell i am doing.
For my gem distribution I am going to evaluate the F2 in 4 categories. Each one is worth 2 gems except the last which is only worth 1. If one finalist beat the other in that category they get 2 gems. If it's a tie then they each get one.
Strategy
Russell played a very consistent strategy all game long. It wasn't a great strategy in that it left his fate mostly up to other people but it was a pretty decent strategy and it worked for him. Tracy really didn't seem to have much of a strategy at all. She was at risk for 90% of this game and was saved either by challenges or charity from people who were voted out. This one is easy. Russell gets 2 gems and Tracy gets nothing.
Russell - 2, Tracy - 0
Challenges
While I admire that Russell showed up for every challenge for the most part and tried his hardest, he never won anything until there were no threats left in the game. Tracy on the other hand had an unbelievable finish to the game. Another easy one. Tracy gets 2 gems, Russell gets nothing.
Russell -2, Tracy - 2
Final Questions
Both of them had mediocre answer to the juror's questions. Nobody flamed out and nobody gained an advantage over the other. This one is definitely a draw and they both get 1 gem.
Russell - 3, Tracy - 3
Overall Contribution
This last criteria is about how much each of them added to the overall enjoyment of this game. We all want to have fun while playing these games and it's important to me that people contribute to that. Both Russell and Tracy were part of this game from start to finish and left an impact on it. But in the end I feel Russell tried a bit harder to not only be part of the game but try and make it fun for the people around him. For this he gets my final gem.
Russell - 4, Tracy - 3
So I guess that means I kinda vote for Russell to win? lol
And indeed, I guess that kinda means Russell wins!
Congrats Russell! With 49/95 of the gems in this game, you have beat Tracy's 46/95.
You played a great game Tracy.
Russell, it is now time for you to send the death row members where they must go...
*Ace and Stephenie are tortured and then executed by Russell*
*Sugar and Kelly go back from their temporary ressurection to the afterlife*
*Rocky, Ethan, Marcus, Silas, and Brett sit in their electric chairs. It's been long enough, and the city is ready for it to happen. The 5 are executed simultaneously*
There is only one job left, Russell.
*Russell straps Tracy into the electric chair*
Well, cop, sir. It's time for the final execution.
*Russell executes Tracy*
And, Russell, don't forget, this is Cops and Robbers. You've done the cop part, now you gotta do the robber part.
*Russell takes all of Tracy's 46 gems, the only person she may leave her gems with.*
_______________________________________________
Before we get into the votes, I just want to thank you all for sticking in with this game, those of you who have, and to an extent, thank those of you who haven't for giving it the old college try. It is very difficult to play a game that is a new concept, and to trust in it's mechanisms, and really enjoy it, especially with a host who is prone to a few goof ups, and maybe one or two big ones...but who's counting?
SILENCE YOU TWO!
But anyway, I can't say that the idea was perfect, and maybe in reproduction, if there would be one for that matter, I or someone else would tweak a thing or two, and hey, that's just great, and that's the purpose of these games. Twists and turns, edits and fixes, that's how the game is played, and how they are hosted for that matter as well. I however, am still completely proud with how this game has worked out, and of all of you for how you played. You took what could easily have been a game that should just be ignored, or should just be given up on, and completely blew me away by creating great alliances, and really hammering out the working of this game, and exploit them, and play this game like any other, with strategy, care, and ambition. Great job to all of you.
Thanks for the kind words from those of you who enjoyed it, this has definitely been one of my more personal and interesting hosting experiences, but I probably won't do this system again...for a while that is. Who knows what the future holds? I also implore any who want to do something LIKE this, to do just that, if it is similar, I won't be the one to say "COPYCAT!". If you wanna do almost the exact same thing, lol, maybe just mention it, so I don't feel irked when I get an application E-mail for "Robbers & Cops, the original concept", lol.
So yeah, that's enough of my rambling. Thank you for playing, and stay tuned for Survivor: Japan, or whatever the hell I'll have planned next. Thanks for making this hosting experience one of my best!...
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....With some of the best playing I've seen in a while at that!
Onto the game...
Well, it was one hell of a game! 15 individuals entered a fierce battle for power, and gems just over 3 months ago. Fighting for the authority to be a cop, and the power to be a robber. Protecting, stealing, teaming up, and executing. The game flipped and flopped many ways, and at the end it has come down to 2 people.
Tracy, and Russell.
I will now allow the Jurors to one at a time place their gems where they so please. I have decided to post the statements alone with the votes. You both have 23 gems each. You need 48 to win, meaning you both are competiting for 25 more of the 49 gems being distributed tonight. Good luck!
I'll start with Kelly...
4 for Tracy.
3 for Russell.
Next up, Brett:
Alright, here's what I'm gonna do...
Russell. I was going into this wanting to give your more gems... But, you kept saying how "boring" I was in this game and unsocial. Well, you never approached me or anything either. I think it goes both ways. You did play a good game. I respect the fact that you got here how you did. It's a great strategy and it doesn't always work for everyone. But, it's also not good to talk a bunch of shit on me then try to kiss my ass at the same time.
I really wanted to give you more gems than Tracy... and I'm not a bitter juror at all. But after reading your answers to peole's questions, I've decided to reward you with 2 of my gems.
Tracy, I'm very proud of you. You came a long way and took a lot of heat from people. You NEVER gave up hope on anything. That is truely admirable. I prefered Russell's strategy a little bit more (strategy over strength in challenges), but I can't ignore the fact that you kicked some serious ass out there. Those were some tough challenges filled with incredible competitors. You helped take out a lot of strong people, which many can't ever do. So I'm awarding you with 5 of my gems. Good Luck :~)
Congrats to BOTH! You both did amazing jobs. You definitely deserve to be where you're at. Keep in touch and also keep it real
Next up, Silas:
5 gems Russell
2 gems Tracy
Sugar's turn now:
I am giving all 7 of my gems to...
TRACY!
Congratulations, Tracy. You earned these and I really hope you win! I told Russell my mind wasn't made up - and it really wasn't. He made some good points, which I considered, but I guess his whole attitude about how he "knows me" and didn't seem to bother to try too hard to earn my gems makes me not want to give them to him. I respected Tracy's game the most. Yes, I commented on how I felt she wasn't trying in the beginning, but overall she was a loyal ally, she stood up for what she believed, she never sold out to the other side and she didn't throw a little tantrum when she wasn't given a gem (that she didn't even deserve) like Russell did. I think Tracy was very impressive in all those challenge wins when she really needed them. That, and having key relationships with people who gave her their gems as they exited the game, making good relationships with the jurors, and making key strategic moves when it mattered have earned her the right to my gems. Go Tracy!
Next is Marcus:
I am switching my vote over to 7 gems for Russell and 0 gems for Tracy at this point. I am doing an all or nothing in this final vote and that's how it's going to be as I keep switching back and forth but based on one particular answer I saw I do not like the answer to it and therefore it completely switched my vote.
Ethat's next now:
So, the jury process has made me come to the realization that these people both played better games than I did. I planned to come into the game “solid” at the challenges but not the best, communicate with everyone, and put myself in a position where I’d be a swing player at times because I’d have strong working relationships with everyone. I failed to do that. Even though in my confessional, I talked about betraying the people who I was closest to and even had chats with other people in the game about that, I didn’t. I just grew too attached to Marcus and Silas; I was loyal to them and somewhat loyal to Brett and Russell as well until I was ousted. And I didn’t hold back at all in the challenges, often taking work from players like Marcus, Silas, or Russell, and claiming the wins because of their effort, which made me a much larger threat than I should’ve been. My game was very, very morally clean. Which is rewarding in ways, but it’s not what I needed to do to win.
Anyway, I have read over everything, and I feel completely confident that Russell is the player who deserves to win this game. I’ve actually felt that way since midway through the game, and I’ve given Tracy a chance to show that she played better, but I haven’t seen enough evidence to convince me of that. However, I’m just one person a jury of seven, so I’m not just going to give Russell all of my gems to try to influence the vote in his favor. Tracy stepped up when she needed to at the end of the game, and she played a strong enough social game to get players to give her gems when they were eliminated. But one of the reasons why she made it far was because she wasn’t perceived to be one of the top challengers, and…it didn’t seem to be a strategy that she consciously employed according to her answers. Even though I do think that semi-consciously, she didn’t fight hard until she needed to, according to her, she tried to win challenges every round…but that would’ve just made her go earlier if she ever succeeded. Plus there were times when she received gems from players who just wanted Team Silas to fail. Regardless of her justification, I still feel the same way about my gem distribution. Russell had a significant part every round of the game from start to finish and made just about every strategic switch in the game happen that happened. He didn’t stand out, but he was (almost) always there, always thinking, and always making the right moves to advance. And I hope that he wins this game.
5 gems go to Russell.
2 gems go to Tracy.
And lastly, Russell, you need 3 gems from Rocky to clinch the win. Tracy, you need 5 to win.
Final Votes...or gem giveaway or whatever the hell i am doing.
For my gem distribution I am going to evaluate the F2 in 4 categories. Each one is worth 2 gems except the last which is only worth 1. If one finalist beat the other in that category they get 2 gems. If it's a tie then they each get one.
Strategy
Russell played a very consistent strategy all game long. It wasn't a great strategy in that it left his fate mostly up to other people but it was a pretty decent strategy and it worked for him. Tracy really didn't seem to have much of a strategy at all. She was at risk for 90% of this game and was saved either by challenges or charity from people who were voted out. This one is easy. Russell gets 2 gems and Tracy gets nothing.
Russell - 2, Tracy - 0
Challenges
While I admire that Russell showed up for every challenge for the most part and tried his hardest, he never won anything until there were no threats left in the game. Tracy on the other hand had an unbelievable finish to the game. Another easy one. Tracy gets 2 gems, Russell gets nothing.
Russell -2, Tracy - 2
Final Questions
Both of them had mediocre answer to the juror's questions. Nobody flamed out and nobody gained an advantage over the other. This one is definitely a draw and they both get 1 gem.
Russell - 3, Tracy - 3
Overall Contribution
This last criteria is about how much each of them added to the overall enjoyment of this game. We all want to have fun while playing these games and it's important to me that people contribute to that. Both Russell and Tracy were part of this game from start to finish and left an impact on it. But in the end I feel Russell tried a bit harder to not only be part of the game but try and make it fun for the people around him. For this he gets my final gem.
Russell - 4, Tracy - 3
So I guess that means I kinda vote for Russell to win? lol
And indeed, I guess that kinda means Russell wins!
Congrats Russell! With 49/95 of the gems in this game, you have beat Tracy's 46/95.
You played a great game Tracy.
Russell, it is now time for you to send the death row members where they must go...
*Ace and Stephenie are tortured and then executed by Russell*
*Sugar and Kelly go back from their temporary ressurection to the afterlife*
*Rocky, Ethan, Marcus, Silas, and Brett sit in their electric chairs. It's been long enough, and the city is ready for it to happen. The 5 are executed simultaneously*
There is only one job left, Russell.
*Russell straps Tracy into the electric chair*
Well, cop, sir. It's time for the final execution.
*Russell executes Tracy*
And, Russell, don't forget, this is Cops and Robbers. You've done the cop part, now you gotta do the robber part.
*Russell takes all of Tracy's 46 gems, the only person she may leave her gems with.*
CONGRATULATIONS RUSSELL
